Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of Money with Alpha. Today, I have a lovely guest with me. Hello, Jayde Celieste.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: Jayde is ... we were talking a little bit before we hit record, and there's so many aspects. So Jayde looks after sort of the whole woman is probably the simplest way to really, really put it, but does it in such a beautiful way with a variety of modalities, including one that you're creating yourself at the moment. So I'd like to ... we'll delve into all this, and we'll cover lots of different things, and especially how money shows up, 'cause I'm very interested to hear about that part too. But before we delve into
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... please tell our listeners a little bit about yourself and, yeah, who you are, why you do what you do.
Speaker 2: Okay. Hi. I'm Jayde Celieste, and so I have been a business owner for about 12 years, and I have five children. My eldest is 22, and my youngest is 10 .
Speaker 1: don't look 22-year-old.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm crazy in a good way. Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate it So what's happened is over the years, I've been this woman, this mother, and I loved it, and then I fell ... I always felt like there was more for me to do. Now being a mom was very fulfilling, but just me personally, I had this little niggling feeling like I wanted to do more and expand more, and I'm a big avid learner, so yeah, I just took on more. And so I've delved into multiple different businesses. I've had eight different businesses.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: some of them successful and some of them not from a financial or a structural kind of placement. However what I have found is that it gave me a lot of skills over that period of creation and learning how to do all these different processes and working with staff and time and performance that really taught me that there's so much more to just logically thinking about things. And somewhere along the journey, I wanted to understand how people ... Like understanding people's like, buy strategies and things when they came in to purchase from My Skin Clinic, which was one of the businesses I helped.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And so when I came into this space, I ended up diving into things like neurolinguistic programming because it helped me understand the most effective form of communication between us and others.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I really wanted to understand that, so that when I was giving people or recommending things to them, I understood them, and I knew what they truly needed. And so that if they purchased from me, they were purchasing from me for the right reasons. And so I I kind of learned those sorts of things in relation to money and life and and my business, and dived into all sorts of things like hypnosis and how the unconscious and conscious mind
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: emotional anatomy and how emotions show up in our physical form, and somewhere along the line I have come to coach women in Australia, New Zealand, the US, on their skin, their soma, and their subconscious. So that's kind of me in a nutshell.
Speaker 1: So I love to find out
Speaker 2: As nutshell as it could be.
Speaker 1: I know. Well, and this is the thing. When when you've had so much life experience, it's really hard to sort of sound bite it. You know, when people like, "Just, you know, tell us what you do," I was like, "Well, I can't just say it in a word doesn't fit." And then try and put on a business card, which is probably why not many of us have business cards anymore. So, so skin, soma, and the subconscious. So I'd like to actually, like, break each of those down a little bit, 'cause I'm ... 'Cause I was really interested in the skin. A, you have beautiful, radiant skin. And when you said emotional anatomy inside of things as well is like ... Can you maybe explain a little bit more about if those two are interrelated, or if they're separate, then just deal with them individually. But, you know, how you help, like,
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: skin perspective, because it's our biggest organ. And there's so much out there at the ... between toxins and pollution and all that. So how is women in particular, can we, like, take better care of our skin, and why is it important?
Speaker 2: Okay. So when we talk about things from a skin perspective, we have a topical root cause, and then we have sometimes emotional root
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: and then also filters that we can create based off, you know, what it's like to live with, you know, some really serious skin conditions. For example, if you were covered in eczema and what that would be like for someone.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So when I look at the whole woman when we talk about holistic treatments for a skin perspective, I'm looking at multiple things. I'm looking at the things in their environment. I'm looking about, what are they taking in digesting? What sort of chemicals are they using? What's in their environment as in people, energy? Is their cortisol high? Are they stressed? Like, what kind of pressure are they under?
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And so even if they're a teenager in school, I often bring up this analogy because it's so, so obvious. When you put a ... When you've got a teenager and they've started grade 12, for
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: they're going through an such a huge weight of stress trying to get through their studies, trying to study for whatever their grading is at the end. I've completely lost words. Please help me. Chime in if you need to.
Speaker 1: Well, I think
Speaker 2: You know, trying
Speaker 1: The High School Certificate? I don't know. They've, they've changed the name since I was at school, so.
Speaker 2: ...There's the diploma of school and they're, they're trying to get their it's not, it's not... oh, God.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we're gonna get lost off some here somewhere. But they're, grading because they wanna get into uni. They... or they wanna do a specific trade and they need to get a specific result to get that. And that puts an enormous amount of pressure on themself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Whether that's just the pressure they're putting on themself or from their family members or from school, they feel a lot. And so what happens is they're incredibly stressed, they've already got a really high production of sebum in their skin because they've got hormones and things going on with them and their skin can break out. Like we see teenagers go through the worst breakout, but it never just stops in teen years, it can carry on through life. But the example I'm trying to make here is that stress, for example, has a significant impact on people and it has a significant impact on teenagers. And so when I treat skin, I'm making sure they're using the right products and they're educated to do so. I'm making sure they feel good on a somatic level, so taking care of their nervous system, their vagus nerve, their central nervous system, so their full nervous
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... and I'm making sure that they're taking care of their digestion and everything. So the whole big picture, because that in itself is going to get them far better results.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And for women, as we, as we age, obviously we've got a... we've got, like three different hormones. You know, men get a... they're... they're a bit simpler. They've got like their main one, but... So how... like, we go through our teen years and then in our 20s and then, you know, most of us will be having children in our 20s and 30s, some now in their early 40s as well, but then also starts perimenopause, which seems to come up a lot on my social feeds these days, and then menopause. So there's all of these. So how are there different things that we would need to do to, to care for our skin, I suppose, as we age? And then obviously all the other extraneous things like toxins and all of that would still be there. But
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: how does, how does our aging process for women in particular change with our skin, and how does our skin and regimes need to change?
Speaker 2: Okay, so obviously when we get to a specific age, say around 20 years old, our skin and our s-... our cellular function starts to slow down. Not incredibly fast, but it can. And so the thing that we're looking at is providing the right nutrients for the skin topically, so collagen, elastin. We're looking at you know, keeping it super hydrated providing the right things to stop it from being obviously kind of exposed to environmental
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: all the things that can kind of really impact it. Making sure that we're not wearing our makeup to bed because it's super damaging and obviously drying the skin out drinking enough water. So all of these things become increasingly more important and they're not necessarily things that we really care about when we're younger. And then we're obviously thinking about cellular function.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So in... obviously from my perspective, I'm making sure they've got the right skincare, they're doing the right treatments and they're taking care of themselves from a nutritional mental space.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: But then I also am thinking about making sure that when they're coming in for treatments with me, that I'm balancing their nervous system. So getting it into a very balanced state so that their cellular function actually increases. It helps
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: ... healthy hydration, cellular function, production of, of collagen. So there's numerous things that you can do, it just depends on the person how they, I guess, they look at their whole body. Some people think, you know, "I'll come and get a skin treatment, I just want it to look good." Other people will come and get a skin treatment and they're like "I just, you know, I've, I've got these wrinkles here, I need to know the best products to use," and they just wanna learn what products to use.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then other people really wanna be educated, they really wanna understand what's going on and how they can really holistically take care of themselves. And so that, that's kind of where I go with skin and the body. I, I make sure that I'm treating it from the whole perspective.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. And it's interesting, the, the concept of, of somatics. I've only really started to hear that, that word, I'd never heard it before, probably maybe a year ago. And to be honest, I still don't completely understand it. So what's... when you say balancing nervous system, again, are there different ways to do it? Is it a... and I know this might be an oversimplification, but is it, you know, eat well, sleep well, don't drink too much, all of that? Like is, is it like that or are there other things as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah. There are many other things. Like you've probably seen, I have that post on facials aren't just fluffy let's stop calling them fluffy. The biggest reason for that being is when someone walks into our treatment room we're thinking about their sensory acuity, how they're feeling. So how's their touch, sound, sensation as they come in? How are they feeling in our environment? And it's up to us to kind of create that soothing, relaxing space where they know that they're gonna be taken care of.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And so that comes from the moment they walk into the treatment room, how they're spoken to, how they're treated, what they're treated to, whether it's a nice chamomile tea to help calm the nervous system whether it's how they decide to prep for the facial, for example. If they're lied down, if they've done a special process to relax the shoulders, the neck and obviously accessing oxygen through the back of the, the neck, through the occipital bone. There, there's so many different ways that we actually do things just naturally while doing a traditional facial.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: then obviously there's breathing techniques. So breathing techniques bring you to a very grounded state, they make you really mobilize your energy and they help you relax and they help you access a place where you feel comfortable just to allow someone to do a treatment. Have you ever noticed that when you've gone to ... you have to feel quite comfortable and you have to have that rapport with them to be able to feel like you can relax? Relaxation is the key for that process to be very effective instead of just topically effective. So that's kind of our job as, as an s-... an aesthetician, 'cause I'm an aesthetician, obviously but then from my perspective, I'm thinking about the whole process. They come into my treatment room, sometimes they are angry. I'm recognizing that they're angry and I'm not necessarily going to, you know, push and shove for a conversation about why they're angry, I'm just gonna be like, "Let's help you get into a relaxed state. What can I do to make you more comfortable?" So I'm
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ball back into their court with the words that I'm using. I can use a lot of guided meditation just with ... voice, and I, I pay attention to the client specifically instead of
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: popping something on for them. I'm listening to them and what they've, they've experienced and kind of drop in. And then there are other times where they just share everything. They've just got to get it all out 'cause they're an external processor, and I'm knowing that I have to stay
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: and I have to pay attention to the fact that they are processing something. It's not mine. I don't need to carry that. But I can give them the space to share what they need to and make them feel good. And that, in itself, is tremendously good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, it's interesting because we are... We've all got different experiences but they'll all... And our emotions and everything will all come at us at different times, depending on what's going on and our, level of ability to handle it. So, you
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1: sometimes, you know, something might happen and my... I, I've seen this, like, reaction my daughter. And she'll, she'll do something, and then she'll be looking at me like, "Are you angry, Mama?" I'm like, "No, no." Whereas I might, she might do the same thing in another at another time, and I might just, you know, overreact. So her, her kind of ... having done that thing is because from one time I overreacted, but now I'm in a calm place, so I'm okay. So we... Yeah. It's understanding when we need to, to get that extra help from, from someone like yourself. And nervous system is huge. Do you... I'm assuming you would
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... most of your
Speaker 2: It, so,
Speaker 1: ... in this kind of state?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah. A lot of my clients that come in, they're busy businesspeople. Majority of them are women. Occasionally I get men, but they're on a very
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: high busy schedule. And so, they come in and they're kind of like up here, and it's my job to kind of get them here. And that, that is something I take great pride
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... that I can... I'm actually capable of doing that with them.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: But it's so much the, more than that. It's just also understanding, like, if you could put this into practice as an everyday person, knowing that if you walk into a room and everyone's annoyed, and you come up to them and you approach them with Like, say you're at... Walk up to a counter. This is a good example. You walk up to a counter and the person behind the counter's dealt with some really nasty people, nasty
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... and they've just got this vibe about them, you know? And they're quite short and everything, and you're just like, "Hi, how's your day? You sound like you've... You know, it's been quite busy for you." And, you know, you're just paying attention to the fact that even your energy has a way of uplifting someone just by recognizing and showing
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: bit of understanding.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: It's such a powerful tool when, when you realize that you have that just so naturally. And I obviously take that into my space on a completely different level. But that's basically the, the concept of it, is that you're creating that space, your energy is driving that space, and your words and your behavior is going to create exactly what they need. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a bit of a state break. Like I've, I've sometimes experienced that too with, with shop assistants. And then it'll just be, "Oh, wow, I love your earrings." And they just get, like, so taken aback that it kind of breaks them... Almost snaps them out of their, their bad mood. And we're like... And they're like, "Earrings? What, what? What?" And they're like, "What am I wearing?" And then all of a sudden, they've forgotten what the thing was that they were upset about, and they're focused on the earrings instead. And I do get distracted by shiny things
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... as well. So, but yes,
Speaker 2: It's so true. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think it's, it's an, it's an important thing to recognize, that we can do that for others but then sometimes we need it for ourselves as well. We can't always sort of hold that space for too long. How do you protect your energy in
Speaker 2: Oh, 100%. In the workspace or in general?
Speaker 1: In general, really, 'cause there's, there's a lot of... As women,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna honest with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We don't always do it. We're not always consciously thinking, "Oh, yep. Okay, I need to look after myself." "i'm in this room full of people." We're literally being busy, trying to get to where we need to go. And and we'll go into that space and sometimes we feel super dysregulated or a little bit uneasy later because we've dealt with a big crowd of people. For some people, that's fantastic, and some others, they're not. And so, you can't always be on, but is a very conscious practice for you to think that, "Okay, when I'm gonna go out for the day, or when I go into work-"
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm going to sit here and, and give my... make sure I'm really grounded in who I am and what I'm doing. My energy's mine, theirs is theirs."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: "I don't need to take on anybody else's stuff for the day." "I'm in control of my own journey and my own emotions." Like, you can have practices that you do that, or even grounding techniques. You can even bring yourself back to a place when you've been... Had something disruptive go on around you that's kind of really upset you. You can do that. My feet are firm on the ground.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: My hands are soft and warm.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm breathing in and out. You can do different things to just bring yourself back to reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah,
Speaker 2: And removing yourself. You can remove yourself as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just recognizing when something is just not healthy for you and making that decision to consciously shift and create a better space for yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I like that bringing that consciousness 'cause that's one of the things... I'm not overly fantastic at meditating but the ones that I'm good at is when they, they actually give you something to focus on. So it's yeah, focus on your toes, and... Yeah, and it's like breaths so can't... Keep your breath going. And then they work through all the elements of the body. And I was like, "That's all right. I can do that." I'm not thinking about anything else, I'm just thinking about that, but I'm thinking about one thing, not 10.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, yeah.
Speaker 2: And there's correcting posture as well. So when you correct your
Speaker 1: Oh,
Speaker 2: that in itself brings you back to a state of, of,
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... of power. It's your power pose, so... One of my old coaches used to bring it up all the time, and
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... started practicing it because I'm like, "Maybe there's something to this."And there was. There definitely is something about holding your physiology correct, correcting your shoulders, correcting
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... chest.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Holding yourself upright and just remembering who you are, I guess, taking a good deep breaths.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That in itself pre- fixing your physiology also makes a big difference in how good you feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's something, a very simple thing you can do is just correct your posture.
Speaker 1: You sound like my mother. But it's in a good way.
Speaker 2: It might be.
Speaker 1: But it's, it's also good too, because literally as soon as you said that and I readjusted my posture, 'cause I was slouching, I was like, "Oh, wow, I can breathe better now. I can actually-" I can take a deep breath and it's filling my diaphragm, not just my shoulder area.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a couple things you can do when you don't quite know whether you're feeling... You know, sometimes people are so used to being in this state of fight and flight all the
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: that they don't actually realize that they're in it. Like they've just done it so well that they don't know much different. And a good way to recognize those things is how well you're breathing, so breathing in and out.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: If it's shallow, so that's a good indicator that you're holding yourself back from fully, you
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: relaxing your nervous system. And then obviously holding the steering wheel's a good one. You'll notice that when you're in high ... if you just pay attention to your grip on the steering That is a very good indicator on how stressed you might be feeling in your environment. And you can just
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: and choose to breathe properly, and you'll handle the scenario so much better. So yeah.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. I'm gonna have to notice that now whenever I'm driving how, how how, like, tightly am I holding the steering wheel. I was like Jade said if I'm clutching it, I'm stressed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, that's a good thing. They even use it in yoga. Just relax your face. It's just part of the process of dropping into a you know, a, yoga practice
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: please relax your face. See, these are simple things, but they're
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: powerful, powerful tools for us to use.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's the reminder, that's, that's the important thing. Like even when I would do yoga and I would, I would go to classes and they're like, "Remember to breathe," and I was like, "Oh, yeah. Haven't breathed." Sorry. It's just things that we think just come naturally. We're like, "Oh, wow, I need to reminded," because I was like, "I need to be breathing. I need to pa-, like it's just, oh, okay, now what am I, how many things do I have to remember all at once?" But it's good when we have the reminders, and then after a while, it becomes a lot more second nature the more we do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like habits. Yeah. There was something that you mentioned, we, I've heard you mention it before and you mentioned it earlier, it was, it was emotional acuity?
Speaker 2: Anatomy?
Speaker 1: Anatomy, that's the word.
Speaker 2: Emotional, oh, no, sensory acuity.
Speaker 1: Sensory, no, but it was emotional anatomy. That's what I, 'cause I was like, 'cause I, I was "What, what is that?" 'Cause it led to you did a face reading for me, which I was fascinated by.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Like it was, it was so dead on. I was like, "Oh my God, this is amazing." And yeah, so I was, I wanted to ask you a bit more about it. So what, what is emotional anatomy?
Speaker 2: Emotional anatomy is basically how our emotions show in our physical form. Like how they're ... in our physical form. And if you think about like, for example, a a cell at its very core is energy, and energy is emotions are energy in motion.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So the way and the, and the, the lens in which emotional anatomy views things is that our emotions are we're made up of them, our physical form is the structure of our emotions and our energetics.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: that's pretty much what emotional anatomy is. And the skill is that you can learn how to read which emotions sit where in the
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: what sensations you might feel, the texture of the skin, the shape, and the structure of the
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: and read how that all kind of is, and, and interpret that for someone else to kind of really come home to themself.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: It's a very beautiful process. So there's reading someone's face, for example, like we did with you.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: when you read someone's masculine and feminine energy, what you're reading is the masculine, what they put out to the world, and then their internal world, their masculine and feminine. And then I guess how they structure and think physical, emotionally, and intelligently, like
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: as a whole. And so reading a face in itself is a phenomenal, phenomenally cool thing. It's, it's a very cool tool that you can use one, in understanding the people with you, but also taking a good introspective look at self.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And in a good way. Like, I think when you, when you think about having your body read or your face, for example,
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: sorry, you just got me on a passionate topic, so please shush me
Speaker 1: No, don't, keep going. Oh, no, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2: But like... When we talk about the body for some women they come to me, they want the, the body reading and things, and it is so nerve-wracking for them 'cause they feel super, super vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And they're under this intention that, "Oh, no, I'm g-, I'm gonna have to strip down to my underwear or I'm gonna have to strip down to this," but I can read the body just fine with a pair of togs on or a pair of bummers and a, a, a singlet. It's perfectly fine. It's just for me to see the basic structure of the body.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And the purpose of it isn't to find the flaws. It's to understand the strengths and challenges of this beautiful specimen in front of
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: what they have experienced in life, what shaped them, where did they strengths come
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... you know and all of these things. What's their history telling me, you know?
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: When they have a, a very tight around their lips and they're holding them like this, they're holding so much back, you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But when their mouth is nice and soft and open, they're very comfortable expressing themself and things like that. And you start to recognize these things within yourself when you've done this body
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... but you also start to recognize it in other people around you, and it helps you, I guess, be more
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: of how people are really feeling in your presence or how people are really feeling in general.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: you get to s-, decide what to do with that really. But it's just a beautiful tool to
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: and a beautiful way to, to come home and understand yourself without the complexity and the criticism that we can normally hold, especially as women.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Especially when we understand exactly why we've got these tiny little, little things going on with our body, like for example, our shoulders hunching forward, you know? Feeling guarded, for example, when our shoulders are hunched forward
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... constantly having a tight tightness in the throat or losing your voice and different things is a a very common way to kind of interpret that someone's not expressing
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... how they would really like to. Or for me even
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: when I started going through different things hormonally and I'm like, "Oh, there's something going on with my thyroid." And for me, yes, there's a physical aspect to this, I do need to take care of it, I did need to get it looked at, but then I also needed to understand that I've spent a lot of time gatekeeping my work. And this is the
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: you know, in the last 12 months, I've been like, "Well, no, I can't just do this with people that just come to me. I would really love to share this with more people."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had to kind of overcome that little bit of conflict or resilience or resistance that I actually had there. And so there's all sorts of different ways that emotions show up in the body. And it's just the, you know, even down to the very stance, what, you know how we did the floor, the feet
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: when we had our reading that day. Like, having a specific foot in front of the other can indicate that you're more masculinely
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: or you're feeling a little bit hesitant if your foot's turned out the other way. Like, there's so many different beautiful ways to interpret what's going on in the inner world just by taking a look at the physiology of the body.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I could get lost in my train of thought, but coming back to what you do too, Alpha even money, like everybody has a capacity in their unconscious and their physical body which tells them, you know "This is how much money I can hold and this is why and this is the beliefs that I have around that."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it takes a lot of unconscious work that could be stem all the way back to when we were tiny little kids growing up and watching how our parents do things, up into what we felt safe to hold. Like,
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: what do I feel worthy of holding? Do do I do I think I can hold this $100,000 in my bank? If you've ever watched someone blow money that really wanted to earn it and keep it for a
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: that's a perfect example of someone that has a ceiling around what they can actually hold onto.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And each of us have our own. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes. And it's, yeah, it's really interesting you say that because I've had so many clients over the years where they'll have sabotaged something and they're like, "Oh, but you know, there's always something..." And and it's always a legitimate emergency, you know, son fell and broke his arm so there was medical costs, or something breaks, and I was like, "Yes, but why do these things keep..." And it's literally things were breaking, like even her son's arm. I was like, "Why are things breaking so that you have to, like, drain your emergency fund?" And yeah, so there's all this sort of work. But you're right, holding it in our bodies, and it is quite often... And as women I find in particular, it's not even just our stories or even our parents' or grandparents' stories, there's generational... you know, there's, like, gender stories as well. I mean, you know I
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... you know those Little ... Little People, Big Dreams books? You know, that series.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we've got one for Emmeline Pankhurst, and my daughter she... the two that she loves the most are Marie Curie, the scientist, and Emmeline Pankhurst, and we read that one and it's, you know, the suffragette movement. And I read it and I was just like, "Oh my gosh." I remember the first time I read it was like, "That's where a lot of our stuff comes from." It's buried in our DNA because of all of the things that the women, that they had to fight for so that we could have what we have now, and there's guilt attached to that. And then anyway, I get... I can get on my, you know, whole bandwagon on that too, but that's all buried in our energy and that stuff can't stay in there forever, especially when we look at our current younger generations now.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's not... I don't think they would stand for that, and it's probably creating a bit of conflict between some of the generations as well, but then helps us understand ourselves better if we go back into the generations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And for me it was probably my great-grandmother who would have come from that era. And yeah, so it's incredible. So for you to be able to see this more and clear it more, how do you see money show up for people? Like, is it in how they pay or don't want to pay you or is it that you're actually... like, does it come up when you're doing work for them and then all of sudden it's like, "Oh my gosh, I have this, you know, this fear of debt." Or, "I have..." you know, what have you seen in all your experience?
Speaker 2: It's it's numerous things. So obviously you've got your verbal cues which you
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: pay quite a lot of attention to yourself. So I'm paying attention to their verbiage. I try not to think too much about when they're choosing to invest because I know that in... if they really truly want to do the work they're going to find their way to do that or it'll just be a simple process for them or something we can work on. But my big thing that I'm paying attention to is their money stories. I like to dive into their history and learn about when they first learnt about money, what it means to them understanding what it feels like in their body to hold certain amounts. So obviously you can use your body as a pendulum. Have you ever seen anyone do that in hypnotic work?
Speaker 1: Not like that. I'm reading a book at the moment called The Emotion Code, I think it's called.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he... it's... yeah, he uses the swaying forward and backwards, which is the first time I'd ever seen that before. But yeah, so it's only just recent.
Speaker 2: Yeah. so there's so many ways that you can do it. You can use a pendulum, literal pendulum,
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: you can, measure the micro movements of the hands and how the unconscious is communicating through the body.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can do it with the physical body, so ask the body questions and say that if it's a yes, can you move forward, if it's a no, can you move back,
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: if you're doing the process correctly and you've really, you know, you honestly intentionally want to do the work, you'll notice that your body communicates with you exactly how you feel about certain things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What does it feel like for you to hold a million dollars?
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: What does that feel like in your body?
Speaker 1: For me? It feels pretty calm actually, which is surprising.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1: I never really thought about it. that's a good question.
Speaker 2: ... some people, like, they really pay attention. And it's recognizing where that sensation started first for me, and then I work from there. 'Cause I can understand, obviously looking at the structure of the body from the head to the
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: what emotions and, and conflicts and, and beautiful things come up in each area of the body. So I'll, I'll go in and work with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'll go in and use timeline therapy techniques if I need to around beliefs and things that they ... to work on that they might have developed, you know. Watching Dad only give Mom $20 for, you know, a $100 grocery shop. There's another one for young women or young wives and, and partners and things that they would have experienced however many years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know even myself, so talking about money stories and women and coming back to what you shared before, because that deeply resonates with me as a woman, when I had to do money work ... I remember having to go back into my timeline. And sometimes when you go into your timeline, your unconscious mind will take you to places that you could not even imagine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I, I went back into many lifetimes before from memory. I can't remember exactly when. But I think I was like my grandmother's grandmother, I can't remember. And, I was being told what I had to do. And in my mind in my unconscious mind, I was being married off to a man of less money, which meant that I had to work a lot harder to create a life that I wanted to create.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I had to do a lot of belief work with that with another practitioner. You know? I could do the work myself with these skills, but I actually love working with other people. I find
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: a lot more wholesome and a lot more you know, being held in that movement is, is so
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But, you know, we all have these things. We all have a glass ceiling when it comes to money. We all have a safety in which we feel we can hold money. And we all have beliefs around them. And there are things that can come up over our life and things that we can deal with them when we're quite young, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes. But it's important to know that you can work through them. And I think that's,
Speaker 2: Oh, 100%.
Speaker 1: that's the difference where ... And it's, it's talked about a lot more than it, it has been. Like I, I think back to when I was a child, this wasn't even really a thing. Like nobody talked about it. And even if there were, if you, if there were problems, there were no ... well, you know, didn't think there were solutions for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean my father passed away recently and I've been going through all his old photo albums. And I'm looking, he had a lot of photos of, of me as a grown, growing up. And I'm looking, going, "Oh my gosh, I wish I could go back to that like 11-year-old or 14-year-old girl and give her a hug." And just tell her, "You'll figure it out, and there are solutions. You have to go through it, because that's just part of the journey, but you'll, you'll be okay."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know? Rather
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: you know, feeling so lost because you're like, "Oh, there's, there's no way I can ... I don't even know what the problem is, let alone if there's a solution for it." But, but it's
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... trusting the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's also like you know, 99.9% of the time when someone comes to me and they're like, "This is the problem," it's pretty much not the problem.
Speaker 1: Something else, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's something completely different, but it's completely groundbreaking Freeing to be able to work through these things. And you just don't even realize how it's weighing you down, let alone how emotions can, can impact things and dictate how we perform in the workplace or for ourselves as entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So many different things. It's such a tangled, integrated web of interesting things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But 100% you can work on them, 100% there is light at the tunnel. You can change your destiny. You can make as much money as you like if you're willing to work on those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. And so people did want to work on those
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... how could they get in touch with you to do that?
Speaker 2: So they can find me through my website, so www.jadeceleste.com. Instagram, Facebook, yeah.
Speaker 1: We'll, we'll put all those
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: ... in the show notes so people can actually find you and follow you and reach out and ask. Because, like I said, even just from that, that face reading that you did, even though it wasn't anything new, it was just really well-articulated and there was so much warmth and love and kindness in that. Even though it was an a PDF like I could still feel that. So even that in itself was, was lovely. But I, I think it's,
Speaker 2: Yeah. What's interesting too, yeah, it's like we've only just got to know each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And we're, like, only on that newer level, so and, like, I, from what I gather, you actually really saw the value in, in having your face read than what I could Just from reading your face. And so that in itself was great, and I thought the perfect time for us to do something like that, 'cause I'm like, "Well, we don't know each other that well yet, so this-"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: might actually be a great time for you to kind of see what it's like." So yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, it was lovely. And it was also very generous of you to offer to provide that too, so that was, that very, nice. Yeah. We will start to have to, to wrap it up, but it's been an absolute pleasure speaking with you. And I, I, I love what, what you do. And also, just to clarify, people, you can do this remotely too. So you don't need to
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... people's presence either, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I can just jump on Zoom and do Zoom sessions with people.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes. It's perfectly fine.
Speaker 1: Yes. No, it's wonderful. And I think that, I think more and more, it's important to take care of the holistic person, because we are multifaceted. And I think if we're looking for one thing, we'll miss, like you said, if somebody comes in and they're like, "This is the problem. I've Googled it," or, "I've put it into ChatGPT," then we're probably going to ... real underlying issue that's going on and the message and the learning that comes with it as well. So I think having that, that broader viewpoint and range of skills and, and tools that you have would be the better way to go. Because then you're more likely to actually find the thing that they really need, not what they think they need.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Lovely. Well, thank you very much again. And yes, thank you everybody for listening and have a lovely week.
