Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of Money with Alpha. Today, I'm joined by the lovely Suzanne Butler, who's a specialist in so many different things, but is probably mainly known for Feng Shui. And you can correct my pronunciation because I'm not sure if that's correct.
Speaker 2: That's correct.
Speaker 1: Oh, good. She's an, an amazing human. I've known you on and off really for a few years. And you grow and develop and it's wonderful. So I... Before we get too much into that, please say hello and tell us a bit about yourself, because you've had quite an extraordinary journey.
Speaker 2: Just a little. So yeah, I'm Suzanne. I'm here in Brisbane, Australia. And my journey has been one that's been very varied. I tend to get bored very quickly, and that has created a lot of, like, regeneration and change that, you know, something hasn't fit and I have never been scared to make that change. Like, if something doesn't work for me, bang, it's done, I move on. So I just happened to fall into feng shui and love it. I'm obsessed with it and, and I'm obsessed with what it's done for my life, but I'm also obsessed with what it's done for my clients' lives in so many, so many different ways. So yeah, it's something, you know, your journey, you've gotta be happy to step outside that comfort zone and try new things and see what will happen basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And one of the things, 'cause I saw you speak at an event recently, and I, I knew a little bit of your, your story, but I found a lot more or learned a lot more of it. I was like... maybe only a week ago, I've lost track of time now. And one of the things, 'cause I... you don't strike me as a person who really likes to conform but I then learned that you were in the
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: ... for quite, well, a few years. So I was "Okay, how did that happen?"
Speaker 2: It was like... So when I... I, literally, like I said in, in my presentation, I went home at 13.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I grew up in Tasmania, let me just say that. I grew up in Tasmania.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And I always knew I did not want to stay there. I know it's beautiful and all that, but there's nothing there. Like, there is nothing
Speaker 1: People go to retire there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We had a careers day at
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... the Defense Force came.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And I went home at 13 and said to my mother, "I am joining the army and I'm going to be a cook." And she said, "No, you're not." Like, incredibly adamant. "No, you're not." So I didn't. I joined the Air Force instead. And I wasn't a cook. I became a communicator. So I did communications.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So I got a couple of postings and ended up in Darwin and ended up at HQ NORCON, which is actually an Army and Navy base basically together. It's where the patrol boats come in.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So I started getting quite a good experience about what the Navy really does, because... Let me backtrack. So when I s-... I initially decided I wanted to go to ADFA and I didn't pass the testing.
Speaker 1: To what what?
Speaker 2: That devastated me. Australian Defense Force Academy.
Speaker 1: Okay,
Speaker 2: to go to uni basically and have them pay for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Didn't get in. That absolutely devastated me. I went through that alone. I went to Hobart on my own on the Greyhound bus and came home on the Grey home bu-... Greyhound bus in absolute tears. Had no one there with me. And yeah, didn't join the Navy, and the Air Force said, "Well, we want you." So joined the Air Force got closer to Darwin, and I thought, "You know what? I actually do want to be in the Navy." So I transferred.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: To the same job, but I had to go back and do some more training, and then ended up on a ship. And yeah. Yeah, they don't conform. That was really, really hard. I'm... You know, I was wanting opportunities, I was putting my hand up for things and being denied constantly. "No, blah, blah, blah, you can't do that. We're giving it to someone else." With, with a popularity contest.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So obviously that didn't make me feel good.
Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
Speaker 2: In the end, I had an accident fell down Laudabay had quite a traumatic injury which ended my career.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then it was, "What now?"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: "What do I do now?" And I decided, "You know what? I, I need to get away." And I took nearly 12 months off but my, my work ethic was so strong, I discharged and I went and got temp work.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And I was being paid something stupid like $14 an hour and I was traveling two hours a day to get to this job because I thought I had to have a job, because I'd never been unemployed.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I'd been s-... You know, every morning I'd be at work at six o'clock, finishing at four. That was my life for eight years, formative years.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And that's... that has stuck with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That, you know, you have to just keep going. You have... you, you have no choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm constantly being told, "Oh, you're so strong and you're resilient." It's like, well, I've had no choice.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: 'Cause that's what my life has been.
Speaker 1: ingrained in you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So where... 'cause I, I saw in your... on your bio that you found feng shui at a Facebook group.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Were you looking for it or how
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: 'Cause there's always this thing like people go, "But how did that happen?" You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ...
Speaker 2: So it came up in Like-Minded Bitches Drinking Wine.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was just a link to basically a sales page.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And I watched the video on the sales page, and I just knew that this was what I needed to do at the
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: because nothing else was working.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So at the time I was in a very, very toxic relationship. I was running three businesses. I had money...... it was nonexistent. It would come in and it would just, like, go out the other side. I don't know where it was going or what was happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And, you know, I was always paying with Peter to pay Paul for, you know, subbies, for suppliers, all these things. And then within days of implementing, the money stayed in the bank ... and things just started happening. I'm like, "What is going ... This is, whoa, this is-" "... this is, this is magic. Like, what what is happening?"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then it stopped.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm like, "What is ... What have I done wrong?"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've done everything. I'm the teacher's pet, I've followed everything to the absolute nth. Why am I now having trouble again? And there are a number of reasons and this is where my money ... Like, I'd never had money problems.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: I'd never ... I love to spend money, don't get me wrong. I have no problem with spending money. As a child, my father died when I was three and as from that, ended up with a trust fund that I got when I was 18.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And so there was all this money just sitting there but I couldn't access it.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: I had to ask
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: to access that money and was constantly
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: "What do you need the money for?"
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It was my money.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I want the money 'cause I want the money. I want the money because I wanna buy furniture, or I wanna buy a car, or I wanna buy, you
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: basic stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that came from my mother.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, "No." I was always told no.
Speaker 1: Control.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so money's always been there, I'd always had jobs, I'd always been paid well, it was never a problem, but then these money problems started coming and like, "What is going on?"
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And it came down to, I had my mentor jump on a call with me and she just walked through the house and she said, "No, you've done an amazing job." Like, "Everything is right-"
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: until she got to my office."
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And she said, "This is where you spend every single day." I said, "Yeah."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And she said, "And you can't see the problem?" I'm like, "No." It was neat and tidy, but there was so much shit in this office. Everything was stacked up neatly, but I didn't need any of it.
Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
Speaker 2: It was just taking up space, energetic space. And then she said, "The way you're sitting, you're ... This is why you're having problems. You can't see what's coming from behind you because your back is to the door."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And she said "And you're wedged yourself up into the corner, so you're coming up against things."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: She "You need to turn your desk around, for a start." I went, "Okay. we'll, I'll get rid of this desk and I'll get another one," 'cause it was a corner desk. And she went, "Okay, good." She said ... And then she said, "Hang on. Sweep back. What is that pack, pile of paperwork?" I said, "It's the tax returns." And she said, "Why is it sitting there?" I said, "'Cause I haven't done my taxes." And she said, "Why?" And I said, "Well, because I've calculated I need to pay tax and I haven't got the money to pay tax, so if I don't do the tax-"
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: then I don't have to pay the money." And she stood there and argued with me for about five minutes to say, "Do the tax."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: "Do your tax." And I realized, okay, well, what's the worst that's gonna happen? I have to pay tax and I
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: put on a payment plan and, you know, it'll be fine. So I did the tax and I got an $8,000 tax return.
Speaker 1: Refund?
Speaker 2: Refund. And as soon as I got that, the floodgates started opening.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And more jobs came through I was paying bills with ease, I was able to get a loan to consolidate a few other bits and pieces. A trip that we were supposed to be taking to Vietnam, I managed to move the dates free of charge, which they weren't ... It wasn't a free ... That wasn't free. I should've had to pay for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All these bits and pieces started happening.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: "Wow, this is, this is actually crazy."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Then it ended my toxic relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm eternally grateful for
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: because it's put me on a completely different path now.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So, your money, your money blocks will come up in very weird and wonderful ways.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And a lot of it, I have found, comes down to worthiness.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: People don't have money Okay, money blocks, they do exist, but they don't. It's a worthiness problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a belief problem.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: You don't feel you're worthy of having cash or having money or having clients. You might say, your logical brain is saying, "Yes, you do."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But your subconscious doesn't believe in yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and when we self-sabotage or something kind of like ... 'Cause I've seen, a lot of times, people, when they come to me, they're like, "Oh, I have, I have an emergency fund but there's never any money in there because there's always an emergency that I have to dig into." I was like, "So why..." And, and, and some of them are legitimate, like, "Oh, my son broke his arm," or there's something else that happens or, you know, there's ... The washing machine broke, whatever, and I was like Yeah, but why are all these things happening though?" there's
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... pattern there. And there's a certain amount that you can do with the conscious mind which You
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: 'cause you have to use your conscious mind in order to identify the beliefs and that. There's other things, though, that are at play that we can't always get to consciously.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is we need to make sure that our environment and our
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: is actually balanced to the point where we can even become aware and consciously aware of what's happening.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: this is where modalities like Feng Shui and the work that you do are really good, because they help to clear the
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: to understand. It just made me think too, 'cause I was like, "Yeah, I actually have the door behind me."
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got the screen there, so nothing can sneak up from behind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't always have the screen there though. It's, it's when I talk to others, mainly just there, but I do have it there more and more. And it's interesting you say
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: 'cause I've been, I've been feeling the need. I've only started putting it there in the last few months and it has made a difference actually. Like energetically, I feel a lot
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's protection.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You've got support behind you. That's what it is, it's support.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And like I, I see it, you know, with people, there's so many levels to this. So your house creates a money
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: but then energies inside cause a money problem, and
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: energies in your office will cause a money problem. And, and this is what I'm saying, like it, the problems I was having at that
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... So I was a virtual assistant, had my own business.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We had a martial arts
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: ... which I had built from absolutely nothing and it was going gangbusters, but that was basically financing everything. And we also
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: painting business because my ex was a painter, but he, he was a cash man.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: He was an absolute cash man and it
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: me into distraction because I'm by the book, I want to make sure the finances are right, the books are correct, the numbers are right, because I intend in the next year or two to have enough money to buy a house. I'm gonna need these figures to be able to get a mortgage. Like that's just how it works. Like I understood this. He was a cash man. "No, pay cash, give you discount."
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad was the same.
Speaker 2: That we have to register for GST, like, what are you doing? Stop underquoting 'cause if we get to the end of the job, well where's the money? "what money?"
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: It's gone on paint, it's gone on subbies, it's gone on supplies.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: gone to your car payment. Like you have no concept or understanding of how a business actually works. So that
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: massive baptism by fire for me. And that's why I now help business owners get their absolute bare minimums in place, because a lot don't.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: But we, at the time, we had legal issues from his ex-wife.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: We had she wouldn't let him see the children. Demanding more and more money which I was giving her over and above what she actually should've had. Me, I was doing that, you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We had a legal problem with one of the student's parents at the, at the martial arts school who were claiming that we were discriminating against her daughter for being Persian, which was ridiculous because our classes were completely full of all
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: ... and all the kids loved coming there. She just didn't understand that her child was misbehaving, which is why she wasn't getting Student of the Week. This came out of the blue, didn't have a conversation with us, just went straight the Anti-Discrimination Commission. So all these things on top were then costing me money because I needed a lawyer.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: I needed to spend time dealing with it. It it was costing my health. All these bits and pieces and it was all on me.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So as soon as I put all the Feng Shui in place, everything just dropped off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was crazy how it worked and how quickly it happened, because
Speaker 1: you were hoarding in your, your work office space.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it, it's incredible how quickly it works. Like one of my clients, Jane, I've been working with her for four years and she finally this year... I said, "Jane, if you're gonna do this, you need to do it properly because I can't get, keep getting these emails every six months saying nothing's working when I don't know what you've done, because you're not sharing with me what you've done."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we made a really concerted effort this year and went over and above to make sure that her home was supporting
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: and the results have been insane. Like, I'm talking tens of thousands of dollars have been flowing into her
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: from various sources.
Speaker 1: Yup.
Speaker 2: Unexpected.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think that's where a lot of you know, we can't, and people don't live it up to the universe, and we say just ask for it. Just ask for the money, it'll come.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: "But I'm, I'm only earning this much money." And what do you mean? You
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in asking. if I look back over my life, everything I've ever got, the, the question or the ask may have come out of a, born out of frustration.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I asked. I was like I still remember my biggest change was a a dinner with some good friends, frustratedly saying, 'cause I was still working in tax at the time, going, "I just want to be a writer. I love writing." And the next thing I know, I'm getting offered a technical writing job. Like totally, I was
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: "I don't know where on earth that came from."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So people who say, "Oh, oh, I don't wanna ask," or, "I don't know," or like, just ask.
Speaker 2: we don't have to
Speaker 1: You
Speaker 2: ... why or the how. It's like just ask for it. Like I've, I've brought in over half a
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: in cash unexpectedly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Not from being paid it, but I had, obviously from defense, I got put in a claim, I got a compensation payout. I got a lot more than what I was, I could ever have imagined.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I sold my house for nearly double of what we'd, I'd paid for two years earlier.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting that either. And many other ways that I've just received cash. And it's also the little things, like yesterday went and got a coffee, "Did you wanna use your credits? Okay, free coffee." You know, thank you universe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it comes to us in-... weird and wonderful and mysterious ways, and we just have to say thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, my daughter laughs at me 'cause I go to events and I buy raffle tickets and I always, like, buy this thing, and then I always come back, and when I come back from an event, she's like, "So what did you win, Mama?"
Speaker 2: I'm the same.
Speaker 1: 'Cause nearly every time I paid $50 for raffle tickets for an event, and I won a $50 Visa card.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: was like, "Right, well, there we go."
Speaker 2: I'm the same.
Speaker 1: Or, you know, win photography or books or what... Yeah, so I was just like, "I love it, all right, just bring it on."
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll stand there when they're
Speaker 1: pass it on.
Speaker 2: I'll stand there when they're announcing a prize and go, "I'm winning that."
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or my name. There we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done that too. And I remember being at an event once and one of the prizes was a meat tray. And I'm vegetarian so I was like, "I don't want that." And then I didn't win that, and then the next thing come and I was like, "Oh, I want that." And I won it, and I was just sitting there going, "Oh my gosh, this is, like, freaky."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: it's... when we kind of release to the idea, 'cause then I get people who say, "Oh, I never win anything." And was like, "Well, you've just, like... Then you won't."
Speaker 2: You said that. It's the power of assumption.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Assume you've already done it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, it's setting, it's setting the intentions. It's doing... Look, I find a lot of people, they don't want to
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: because it's easier to complain than what it is to make a change.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's only until the pain is worse than making that change, that's when it will happen. Otherwise, you know, I do have clients that they're just not doing the work.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Their feng shui is in
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: but they're not setting the intentions, they're not doing what they should be
Speaker 1: Yeah,
Speaker 2: therefore they're not seeing results 'cause they're not asking for anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And, you know, feng shui will work and it will give you harmony and balance and it will make life nice, but if you're wanting something big, it's not just gonna land the BMW in your driveway or drop an Hermes bag in your, in your lap in the, in the lounge room. Like, it just doesn't happen that way. You have to have a plan. You have
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: set all the intentions and then take action to make things happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: whether it is going and getting a side gig, doing DoorDash, driving Uber or Amazon or... You know, if you want more money, there is money to be made out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you have a lawn mower, go and mow some lawns.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you've got some extra time, go and clean some houses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There is money to be made. It's just that people just don't want to do it because it's hard. It's work.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you've gotta ask people for money then. And have problems with that and say, "Yeah, but if I'm providing a service and you see value in that service, I'm not really asking for money, I'm just asking for-"
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: an exchange of value." Which way we demonstrate that value in our in our society is through money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll do the thing, I'm not expecting money for free. Like, you'll do the thing and then... it's a little bit... Even like with the, with the prizes, like, you have to buy the raffle ticket in order to win the prize.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You have to buy... I mean, I'm not a fan of lottery, but if you wanted to win the lottery, you actually have to buy a ticket. Otherwise, you can't just expect it to come to you. And that, that's a classic example I read all the but it's still true.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I get asked emails all the time, "Oh, would you be able to do this for free?"
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And well, no, because I can't. But no, because there needs to be an energetic exchange because you
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: to appreciate what I'm doing for you.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: You're coming to me because I have the experience and the knowledge and I can transform your life so you have to pay for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, 'cause otherwise it's
Speaker 2: that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't... Like, even... Same with the work I do as well. People can get... I mean, you can you can over deliver, yes, but they've still actually had to, to see the value and pay the money in the first place.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you undervalue, like I've actually found I've made more when I've increased my prices because the value is there and people get that and they're like, "Oh my gosh, I value this so much more now and I have paid for this, so I have to implement it."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's only by implementing it that I actually see the value. Otherwise, we could just, we could all do something for everybody. We could even do barter. But barter is also difficult too because unless
Speaker 2: Oh, I know.
Speaker 1: like, genuinely see the value there, it becomes, it becomes difficult. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: our form of value exchange is money.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: that's what we use, so...
Speaker 2: And lucky for me, like, if you do it properly and you actually do what I tell you to do, you're gonna see that money back anyway, so...
Speaker 1: absolutely. I mean, I... So many of my clients, like, easily make at least what they've paid me back and more.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But they, again, they have to do the work. the work doesn't have to be hard either. We make it hard because we perceive it to be hard. And that's the other thing too, that, that perception of, "Oh, I can't do this because it's too difficult." Or even, like, you know, as I... 'Cause when you were talking about the room thing, I was like, "I don't actually see how I could move this room around." And then you saw the screen, I was like, "Oh great, there's an easy solution. I'm already doing it-"
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know."
Speaker 2: Yeah. that's the is
Speaker 1: I'll be more aware of it now.
Speaker 2: A lot of the time, you know, feng shui, it does make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's just something, you know, people... Like especially if I look at your office, for example, you will see there'll be a room, "Well, I'm gonna put my desk there." "well, I can't turn it around." Yes, you can.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but, but. There's always the buts, but like, turn it around.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You need to have a solid wall behind
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: or something behind you. Like, use a screen. But have something, have something behind you, like I've got the wall behind me. My desk sits in the middle of the room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've got this, we've got a corner
Speaker 2: doesn't look out of place.
Speaker 1: All
Speaker 2: looks normal. Like, this a corner
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: but it sits with the return and then the front of the desk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna make me think about how I do this or if I just continue to do the screen thing,
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I could do that.
Speaker 2: 'Cause I look at it this way, and this is comment for
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... you would not find a Forbes 500 CEO sitting wedged up into the corner of their
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: or sitting at their dining table.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: They sit in a power position in the center of their office and they can see, they are ... commanding position where they're seeing everything that's coming towards them.
Speaker 1: What about windows? 'Cause I see a lot of desks, and they've got windows behind them.
Speaker 2: Well, the... you've got four walls.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you can... I mean, my window's here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And my door is there.
Speaker 1: You can turn them around, yeah.
Speaker 2: there's ways, there's ways it.
Speaker 1: You can make it... Like anything, you can make it work. Like if you really want to, you'll make it work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: but it's then having the knowledge, and that's then what you help people with is that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: 'Cause I still remember, and this... I don't know if this is a myth, but I remember my mum at least 20 years ago was interested in feng shui. And the concept was still very new back then. Like not many people were sort of talking about it. And the main thing I remember was you had to have a mirror in front of your front door
Speaker 2: No, mirrors.
Speaker 1: something or other. I was like, "What's a mirror good..." So we don't have a mirror, but yeah.
Speaker 2: No, good. We don't want mirrors at the front door.
Speaker 1: No, but it was something about reflecting bad, like energy or whatever, and I like, "Mum, I don't understand that."
Speaker 2: if you have if you have a mirror, like facing your front
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: you're reflecting the good energy back out.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah. Yeah, 'cause she had a mirror there for
Speaker 2: So...
Speaker 1: for many... Like she actually moved a mirror to be in front of the... well, so reflecting at the front door. And it was so bizarre, 'cause every time I walked in, I was like, "Oh my gosh, there I am."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It just freaked me out every time. So I don't... Yeah, we don't have... Actually don't have that many mirrors in our house anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah. no, it's all very common sense. Not leaving dirty shoes at the front door, because you're walking past that and they're bringing the energy through. You know, making sure that you do have support everywhere. That your, you know, that your cooktop is clean, because that's That's the hub of abundance. So having a cooktop that's working, that
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: is clean, that's essential. Throwing out things from your fridge that are off or stale or, you know, from your pantry, that's the decluttering you should be doing. It's not necessarily like if you've got a lot of stuff in your house that you know you have to move through, then do that. But if it's bringing you joy and you love the things... Like I sit and watch people, you know, they're collecting things, like they're obsessed with Disney or they're obsessed with, you know, could be any... Labooboo's, I don't know, whatever. And I'm like, "Urgh, I can't..." I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I don't understand collectors, because I just
Speaker 1: like, "What?"
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, "Where do you put all this stuff?"
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Because, you know, if you die, who's cleaning it up? Because they're not gonna appreciate it. You
Speaker 1: The 'cause I've just had to clean out my dad's place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you want that for your child?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Do you want your child to have to do that? So that's where, you know, this thing called Swedish death cleaning comes in as well. You do it
Speaker 1: What's it called? Swedish
Speaker 2: Swedish death cleaning. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: it's getting you to go through your stuff well before you die and give your things away while you can watch people enjoying them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't realize there was a name for it, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Or selling
Speaker 1: Yeah. My mother has actually been doing that little by little, so. But there's still a lot left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because at the end of the day, the chances are they pass away and all you're going to do is just get a skip delivered and it's all going to go.
Speaker 1: Well that... Yeah, that's literally... The only thing I kept from my dad's place were a couple of little things and some of his jewelry, which I have since sold some of it 'cause I just... I want it gone. I was like, "I don't even want that energy." "The gold price is up at the moment, so off you go."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and photo albums. But I actually just took the photos out that I wanted and ditched the the rest of the albums. 'Cause I didn't want clutter.
Speaker 2: actually just did that the other week.
Speaker 1: And then I'm going to be photographing the and storing them on the cloud. 'Cause I got rid of the albums years ago.
Speaker 2: I literally have... This, this is all the photos that I've kept. I had a conversation with a dear friend of mine. Her name's also Susanna, and she's in the UK. And she is also a feng shui practitioner, but she works a bit differently. She does a thing called interiors therapy.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And she will go into a home and look at
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: in the home and determine what it's doing for that person's life.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly inner support. Spot on. When I was having this conversation I said, "I don't know what to do with my photos."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And she said, "What do you mean?" I said, "I have a tea chest carton of photos."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: "I've also got a plastic tub full of photo albums. I don't know what to do with them."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And she said, "Well, what do you want to do with them?" I said, "Look, I I just don't know. I feel... I'm torn." She said, "Why have you got them?" And I said, "Well, they're photos from my life. Like..."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: "But they're not... There's not any photos in there from at least 15 years."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like 15 years to now, like I haven't got any in there. She says, "So they're from your past?"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She said, "What are they of?" And I said, "Oh, well there's, you know, some trips I've been on," or I said, "There's an album here from my high school year 10 trip to Queensland." And I said, "Half the people I don't even know anymore." She said, "So why have you got them?" I'm like, "Good point." I sat there, I went through them all, pulled out the ones that, "Yeah, I'll keep that one."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Everything else went straight in the bin. Because half of them I didn't know who they were.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They mean nothing to me anymore. And it's holding up space. And I think a lot of it I kept because you sort of expect certain milestones in your life that maybe you'll need to show a slideshow, you know?
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Like a wedding or something like that. Well, when I got married, it was a very small affair and, you know, that relationship lasted 15 months. I threw those wedding photos out very, very quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I haven't had children, so I don't need to do the comparison photos.
Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
Speaker 2: you know, I don't need any of that because, well, it's not in my future.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: So I thought, "I don't need these photos." So they all went in the bin.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And even to me it was like, "Oh, that's a big thing to do."
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: But that was, you know, two months ago. And I'm like, "Okay, well they're gone."
Speaker 1: Yeah.And there's a lightening that goes with that, 'cause I, I did something similar. I was living in a two-bedroom apartment for a number of years, and there's nothing like having no space.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a garage, and I just saw all this stuff in the garage. And it just, it was literally one day, I'm driving in just going This just feels like the walls are closing in on me."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: they actually really were, because I had all this stuff I kept building. And so I went through ... And admittedly I was still single back then, so I had the time to do it. But I scanned in, which whatever photos I wanted to keep, I scanned them in, I tossed the albums, and then I cataloged them. And the thing is, it makes them easier to find.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like now when I, I was doing up a, a little booklet for my dad for his funeral, I could easily find all the photos I wanted because I'd, I'd labeled them, and I had filed
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'd named them, and it actually made it easier. Rather than going through like a gazillion photo
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... I had all the photos there. So, it's actually really nice. And then I don't have the weight of it all, and I've got
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... saved on a external hard drive. I've got them on the cloud so I've hopefully got them saved. But then they deteriorate over time anyway, so even the physical is no guarantee.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think photo albums is probably a big thing that a lot of us could downsize on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That and books. Like I've got a stack of books here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Half of them I don't know where they came from. I've got to move in January. They're coming with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They'll be going to the op shop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or the book shop. Like, I'm not taking them with me at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've, I've gotten rid of a lot of books over time. My husband, unfortunately, his dad is like floor-to-ceiling books, and like walls upon walls of it. So he grew up with that. He's like, "Oh, that's what I want." I was like, "That's not what I want."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want lots and lots of If I'm going to read them again, great. If I've read them once and I'm never going to read it again, why am I keeping it?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've got a Kindle. That serves me, like, 'cause when I read also I read very quickly. So it's not practical for me to have a bookshelf with books on it, because within a day I've read that book.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's expensive.
Speaker 1: It's gonna lot longer.
Speaker 2: With It's ends up being expensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah
Speaker 2: Like in the books that I have on my Kindle, there's some I've read a couple of times because I love the books.
Speaker 1: Yeah
Speaker 2: But I can't imagine ever having a massive bookshelf again.
Speaker 1: No. Well you
Speaker 2: It's just not.
Speaker 1: And is, electronic books, you can actually tag the ... Like, you can search for a word. Like sometimes I'll go to a book and go, "Oh, I wonder what page that was on." I don't, I don't know. I have to flick through the entire book just to find the page I'm after.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Whereas if I knew the word, I could search for it. So it's
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: probably more
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: to have
Speaker 2: And audio books, you know, listen to them. Like I don't have to even read them. I can just listen to them and rewind and listen to that bit again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, there's all ... We just hold onto stuff because we think we have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, you know, I look at, you know, people keep hold of their baby's clothes. Okay, understand sort of. But instead of it sitting up in your, in your loft or in the roof, when you're not even seeing
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: why don't you pull them down and turn them into a, a rug or a blanket?
Speaker 1: Frame it or something? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Frame it or do something with it,
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... you can see every day. Create something for, for your future grandchildren that will be given to them when they're born. You know, there's other things you could do rather than just stacking them all up in your, in your roof space or in your garage just to sit there and rot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: it's not necessary to keep. And just because someone else gave you something doesn't mean you need to keep it either.
Speaker 1: No. Well, I,
Speaker 2: It's no, one's business. It's no one's
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: what the person you're gifting that item to does with it once you've given it to them.
Speaker 1: Yes, 'cause the energetic exchange is done. It's now theirs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I've started to my my daughter found in her closet some of her I've only kept like maybe three items of her baby clothes 'cause she was really tiny. And she's got these Build-A-Bears, and she's now started to dress the Build-A-Bears in it, so they're getting used. I was like, "Oh, they were the pajamas you used to wear, and now they're
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Build-A-Bear." So I was like, "I actually like that 'cause now I'm seeing them-"
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: remembering how cute she looked in it-" she was-"
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: "... six months old."
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's totally practical. But for the most part, people keep things for the sake of keeping things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it, it's not practical.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: And I will always recommend everyone move house every couple of years, because you'll work out very quickly you don't want to take it with you.
Speaker 1: Yes. I have to I did a big clean I've been, I was doing room by room earlier this year, and then now since my dad passed and I, I haven't taken on any of his stuff. I've sold most of it and I've kept a few things but like little, little things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And now I'm looking going, "I think I need to do the house again." I feel like even just having cleaned out his house, I felt the energy of cleaning out. I was "I feel like I need to do my house again." So I'm gonna, I'm going room by room again. And I've already tossed out like six bags of clothes from my closet. I was like, "I didn't even know, how did I ... " And I'm looking in my closet going, "I still have plenty of clothes. I don't know where the six bags even came from." Like what was I hanging onto?
Speaker 2: I do that every six months.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I go through my wardrobe. Do I want to wear this? Am I going to wear this? Have I worn it? And like, I don't buy new things. I, I do not know where it all comes from and why it's all in my drawers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mostly I, when I buy something, I remove something.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So I'm doing one for one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've tried to ... I did that for many years. But yeah, hormonal, hormonal changes in my body, shape and size have changed, so I ... but then there's a denial factor. I was like, "Oh no, I'll fit into that again," and then six months later I was like, "No I won't. Let's just get rid of it."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In the meantime I've, you know, already amassed more stuff that actually does fit.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So like, "Oh, I'll have to just, just let it go."
Speaker 2: Yeah. But like even going through your kitchen
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: and saying, "Well, have I used this?"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Why have I got 15 patty pan pans?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I, I need one. And again, I, I took the heap of Tupperware. I used to sell Tupperware.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So, you can imagine how much Tupperware I had. And it's dwindled over the years, but even last year, I thought, "You know, I don't need this."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I put things in glass containers now if I'm saving it, so I don't actually need this Tupperware. When I took it over to the op shop, their eyes bugged out of their head, they were so excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Along with all these other things I just don't use.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: you know, and so I'm moving again in January. I've got to ... Over Christmas, I will be going through everything before it's packed. I'm not taking things with me because I don't want to have to store it or 'Cause I don't know where I'm going yet. I don't want to have to store it or move it or pay for it or anything. And there's these things called shops. If down the road, I decide that I've got to ... I don't know what, what's happened to a particular thing, then I can go and buy it again. ...
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I, I did that with shoes, and that was a, that was a regret, I have to say. But for the most part, it's you know, things are, are replaceable. You don't have to keep that particular item. Like I helped my girlfriend move. She was moving up north, and everything was going in storage and it wasn't 'cause of the wet season.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: And she said, "Well, could you come and help me pack?" I said, "Are you sure?" And she said,
Speaker 1: I'm Marie Kondo that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And we I said, "I'll do your kitchen for you." And I went through the drawer, and she had two or three of the same utensil. And I said, "Which one do you want?" "Oh, well, they're all damaged. Like they're all melted or, like, not one of them is better than other." I said, "Okay, this one," and I chucked the other two out. And she's just standing there. I said, "You asked me to help you pack."
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: have a weight limit, you have a box limit, so this is what we're doing." And even in her top drawer, she had the Glasshouse Candle sticks.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: in a few of the sticks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they were in the top drawer of her kitchen. And I thought they were chopsticks when I first saw them. said, "Are these chopsticks?" She goes, they're these sticks that-" I said, "Where's the stand they go in?" "I don't know." I said, "Why have you got them?" And she said, "Oh, because they still smell." I said, "No, they don't."
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: "They don't smell," she said.
Speaker 1: Why would
Speaker 2: thought I could put them in, in the in the laundry cupboard." I went, "Why are they in the kitchen?" I said, "No, they're not going with you," and I threw them out. So I threw all these things out that just did not make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because it just didn't make sense, and I think at the other end, there was less stuff she had to unpack.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: You know ...
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes things make sense.
Speaker 2: It's like, chaos. But bless her, she's happy up there now, everything's unpacked, so you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just the little things. You don't need to the kids with their McDonald's toys. Like don't try and clean
Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
Speaker 2: ... kids' bedrooms out while they're there.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Because they wanna keep everything. 'Cause it's special. And if you do find that your kids have everything that's special,
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: buy them a big plastic tub, get them to decorate it with with ... And write on their name and special things. And then they manage it. So if it's something special, "Okay, is this going in the box?"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: it is." And then when that box gets full, they have to go through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get my daughter a tub, but she has these big Squishmallows. And she'd
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... fit maybe two in there and nothing else would fit in them. Sorry, but she's about to get a bedroom makeover, so I was like, "All right, well you have to clean out." "If you wanna have your new bedroom, then all this has to go."
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is like when they left little, and they're, you know, bringing home 15 paintings a week that are, are a strip of paint.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That, you know, it's their masterpiece.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: You know, you can keep it, use it for wrapping paper. The grandparents will love that.
Speaker 1: lot out. it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or throw them out. Take a photo of it, put it in a frame for the week until the next one comes in. also
Speaker 1: I keep a few things, but most of it's gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. All the certificates they get from sport. Because, you know, we get, we get those every week. So this week's goes on the thing, and then when the next week's comes up, that one comes off and the next one goes on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: "Do you wanna keep this?" "No." "Okay, it goes in the bin. Do you wanna keep this?" "Yes." "Okay, it goes in your special box." And they will learn very quickly, I don't wanna keep this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had another client who ... Again, wedding photos. I can't remember who it was now. And she said "Oh, I've kept my old like, previous marriage ..." She's remarried. "I've kept the wedding photos."
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And I said, "Why?" She said, "Oh, for the kids." I said, "Do they even want them?"
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She said, "Oh, I don't know." I said, "Go and ask them."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: "Ask them. They can keep them in their room. Then they're not in your space." And she's like, "Oh, okay," so she did. Kids didn't want them.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: What do they want them for?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: So, you know, we hold onto all these things. It creates a blockage. Things can't flow, and it comes down to worthiness, it comes down to lack, which then flows onto the money situation.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Every single time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, declutter, make sure your space is in the right order.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and then there'll, there'll ... I'm sure there's more complexity to that as well.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: but there's, yeah. There are supposedly the, probably the I mean, decluttering is probably a good thing anyway. I literally bumped into somebody this morning and and they're like, "Oh, you know, people ask me if I'm still moving in, and that was you know, three years ago." I was like, "Okay." If you haven't touched
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1: three years, you probably won't need it."
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I, I don't like clutter, but it's amazing how quickly it can happen. then I've got
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: declutter again. But yeah, the furniture sort of spaces, and now that's, yeah. So, and
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: ... it's all the other things that go with it. And a lot of what I, I like how you work, 'cause it's not just about where you place your desk or where you've got your things, is, there's a lot more to it as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you delve into that because we're not-... we're, we're a little bit more complex than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the energies in a home cause a number of things. So this house that I'm in is what we call good for money, bad for people.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Bad for people could, be a number of things. It could mean relationships don't work. It could mean I struggle to find a job or find clients. But in my instance, it's not good for health.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And I back that up because the last tenant that was in here before me, as soon as she moved out, she was diagnosed with an aggressive breast cancer. My neighbor has been diagnosed with a very aggressive multiple sclerosis and no one picked it up for years. She's been here for six years.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So she's been in that energy for six years. My bedroom is what is contributing to my health conditions.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: thankful I'm coming out the end of it now, but it's been a really hard 12 months
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: there was nothing I could do about it, because when I looked at... Before I applied for it, I looked, I've gone, "Oh, no, that, that should be okay," you know blah, blah, blah. "I know where the bed's gonna go." I'm not... But I'm in my bedroom a lot. So I'm in that energy. Even though it's remedied, I'm still in that energy. And if you've got an underlying problem, it's gonna amplify it. But that said, it's not been a loss to me. It's enabled me to do the deep healing and the deep work on myself and understanding, you know, a lot of stuff around worthiness came up for me.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Even last year, working out, you know, going back to asking for money, couldn't work out why I was struggling with sales calls.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: You know, people would come in and they'd be like, "Yeah, I really wanna do this." And then as soon as I say, "Okay, so you're ready to jump in?" it would be, "I have to ask my husband."
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, "You've just told me you, you wanna do this and now..."
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... I wasn't delving deeper. I wasn't asking questions
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was begging. I felt like I was begging my mother for the money that was mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And thankfully for
Speaker 1: What a realization.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but thankfully for me, because of the work I've done, I also understand when I access that trigger. Oh, that makes sense. Right, we can move on from that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. A
Speaker 2: So I don't need to do, you know, weeks and weeks of work around. It's like, oh, okay, that makes sense. I'm aware of it. Move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's, it... There's always a reason for everything. Nothing is... Like there's plenty of practitioners out there that everything's a disaster. If you get on any of the free forums, they'll be saying, "Oh my god, your kitchen's in the center," or, "This is not in the right place." It's like, well, what are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You're gonna knock the house down. we work with what you've got.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So everything can be amended, changed, balanced.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's just around setting those intentions. What do you want your life to look like and what do we need to
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: to make that happen?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it. Such a... It's so... sounds so simple, but so powerful and
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1: nuances to it
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: that really need the level of insight and experience that you've had.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So how do, how do people access your knowledge and how do they come, become part of your orbit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my website is harmonizingenergies.com. So that would, you know, can be your first stop.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, I'm on all the socials and I'm always open for anyone to inbox me and say hi. Just tell me where you've found me. So like, don't, like... And even send me a friend request, but also send me the message so I know who you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this person is, why are they messaging or why they friend requesting me? So if you do want to do that, that's more than fine. I, I welcome new connections with anyone.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm on all the socials, so just Harmonizing Energies, Harmony Way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you run retreats, you do one-on-ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You do group work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do all the things ... I need multiple things to keep me busy. If you're interested in knowing what your house type is, whether it is good for money, bad for money, I have a quiz on my website you can do.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: and if you're in business, I also have a business frequency quiz that will tell you where you're at and why you are struggling.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Incredible. And they're just free things, so can you imagine what
Speaker 2: Free things.
Speaker 1: ... stuff's like?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, paid stuff, next level.
Speaker 1: Next level, yes. No, like I said, I've, I've been around you now for a few years and I've watched you grow as a person as well. And I'm... Yeah, and seeing you speak the other week was... I was like, oh yeah, man. We've been trying to connect on this for a while, so I'm glad we finally did and we can really start ... to tell people more and more about what you and And I can find out more too, which
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: incredible. So thank you so much.
Speaker 2: It's the perfect It's the perfect way to get into your self-development
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: you fix the house and then things just slowly start changing for you anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: if worried about... And, and if your husband or your partner is not into the woo-woo shit then they don't need to be because it's not woo-woo, it's just based on energy
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: ... it will help them too.
Speaker 1: Yes. And, and the thing is, is that some people need to see it or experience it before they believe it. That's my line.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you can still do all of this and kind ... not They don't necessarily need to know exactly where it's coming from at the time.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: You do it and then they see it like, "Oh, wow, this is really amazing." And like, "Uh-huh."
Speaker 2: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I
Speaker 2: There's been many pay rises that have come in and they don't know where it's come from, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on and
Speaker 2: No, absolute
Speaker 1: all this wonderful wisdom and experience. Well, thank you for listening, everybody. Have a wonderful week and I will catch you in the next episode.
